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Post  Blaugrana on Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:22 pm

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Post  Martin on Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:42 pm

Excellent. That would allow us to run some traditional kriegsspiel scenarios with Napoleonic or mid 19th C armies, as well as our ACW games. The European armies were built around infantry battalions, and cavalry squadrons (Cuirassiers, Dragoons, Hussars etc). Unlike the ACW variety, they were all trained to charge like traditional cavalry, so in some ways there are more tactical options with these armies.

Thanks to gunship24's hard work on the Napoleonic mod, I already have uniforms & OOBs waiting, plus some embryonic scenarios.

Traditional k/spiels were played between 'Blue' and 'Red', which I suspect is the origin of todays 'Opfor' and 'Redfor' in military excercises (although James Sterrett may intervene here to contradict me). With gunship's assistance I have been able to create bespoke Blue & Red armies, together with Green for additional fun in alliance scenarios.

Maybe this will attract more traditional kriegsspielers to Gettysburg?

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Post  Baldwin1 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:03 pm

Well it's about time. I've been rallying for that cause since it first came out. This will also open up a whole new world for SOW with sprite modding, there could be Cherokee sprites for Pap Price's western campaign Very Happy
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Post  Martin on Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:27 pm

Baldwin1 wrote:Well it's about time. I've been rallying for that cause since it first came out. This will also open up a whole new world for SOW with sprite modding, there could be Cherokee sprites for Pap Price's western campaign Very Happy
Absolutely. And if only some bkind soul would do plains indian sprites, my Custer's Last Stand scenario would see the light of day.

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Post  Mr. Digby on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:45 pm

Martin wrote:Traditional k/spiels were played between 'Blue' and 'Red', which I suspect is the origin of todays 'Opfor' and 'Redfor' in military excercises (although James Sterrett may intervene here to contradict me).
Today its BluFor and OpFor, with OpFor always being red coloured. With friendly fire incidents you thus get Blue-on-Blue.

For a while in the Cold War era Red Forces got termed Orange in the British army, especially on exericses in Germany, because 'red' as a colour was so closely associated with the Soviet Union and people feared there might be genuine confusion.

But great to know we can do some Napoleonic games.

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Post  mitra on Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:09 pm

I think it is going to be a big boost for the game. A part Gunship mod, the open possibilities for other mods increases greatly.

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Post  FlashmanKBE on Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:17 pm

Mr. Digby wrote:
For a while in the Cold War era Red Forces got termed Orange in the British army, especially on exericses in Germany, because 'red' as a colour was so closely associated with the Soviet Union and people feared there might be genuine confusion.

Umm. Am I missing something here? Why would you not depict the reds as red? Surely OPFOR=Enemy=Red=Communists was quite non-ambiguous?
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Post  Blaugrana on Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:33 pm

FlashmanKBE wrote:
Mr. Digby wrote:
For a while in the Cold War era Red Forces got termed Orange in the British army, especially on exericses in Germany, because 'red' as a colour was so closely associated with the Soviet Union and people feared there might be genuine confusion.
Umm. Am I missing something here? Why would you not depict the reds as red? Surely OPFOR=Enemy=Red=Communists was quite non-ambiguous?
Presumably to distinguish between real and imaginary news that "The reds have launched everything".

In one case the response would be imaginary, in the other it would have been Armageddon.


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Post  Mr. Digby on Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:25 pm

Precisely. Because so many people, soldiers among them, referred to the Soviets as "Reds", a radio transmission about a real attack could be confused with an exercise.

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Post  Ike on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:40 pm

Wow! Napoleonics with HITS at 2 yds!! bounce Makes me closer to being ready to return to SOW .... Road to Wagram has Bavarian troops in it, nich wahr? Smile
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Post  Martin on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:58 pm

Ike wrote:Wow! Napoleonics with HITS at 2 yds!! bounce Makes me closer to being ready to return to SOW .... Road to Wagram has Bavarian troops in it, nich wahr? Smile
Yes it does, Ike. Very nice flags & uniforms they have too.

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Post  Mr. Digby on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:07 pm

Lovely to see you around, Ike. Welcome back!

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Post  Ike on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:56 pm

Thank you, sir! It's good to be back, even if only partly. Be patient my friend, but I'll be back in the saddle - as it were - fairly soon after the first of the year.
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Post  MajorByrd on Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:19 pm

Ike wrote:Wow! Napoleonics with HITS at 2 yds!! bounce Makes me closer to being ready to return to SOW .... Road to Wagram has Bavarian troops in it, nich wahr? Smile

Hob I doa wos Boarisches ghert?!

Do you have Bavarian ancestors Ike?

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Post  mitra on Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:55 am

No I think he want to be invited to the oktoberfest by the bavarian troops Smile

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Post  Ike on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:21 pm

I don't know about being German, but I do like Oktoberfest and its American version here in Neu Braunfels Wink of Wurstfest.
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Post  Mr. Digby on Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:59 pm

A sausage festival? Now that does sound fun!

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Post  Ike on Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:14 pm

Yes, it is. Beer and other edibles plus sausages and other snacks. Smile
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